Showing posts with label 9/11 Truth movement. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 9/11 Truth movement. Show all posts

Saturday, October 24, 2009

USAPatriot Calls Out Colleen Rowley And Other Soft 9/11 Truthers

The Twin Towers in New York City viewed from belowImage via Wikipedia

I was always taken back at how some prominent 9/11 Truth supporters like Colleen Rowley and Ray McGoven refuse to talk about the obvious Controlled Demolition of the World Trade Center Complex. Colleen Rowley is an ex-FBI agent turned whistle-blower and Ray McGovern is an ex-CIA guy turned whistle-blower. Both think we need a new investigation into the attacks on 9/11 but both refuse to discuss the obvious elephant in the room, that the WTC complex was demolished by controlled demolition and the phony story about 19 Muslim Hijackers just does not add up.

Well a www.911blogger.com user by the name of USAPatriot put my feelings into words better then I could have. Here is what USAPatriot has to say about soft Truthers like Colleen Rowley and Ray McGovern who refuse to follow the truth where ever it may lead.

The quote below is a response to the video about Colleen Rowley which I've included after the quote.


http://911blogger.com/node/21696#comment-220195

Great.

Afterwards, a few of us from the dc911truth group approached Rowley to ask her where she stood on 9/11 (no camera, unfortunately). She would only go so far as to say we needed a new investigation, that she had signed the petition for it, and she supported the NYC CAN initiative. (She also mentioned Jon Gold…in a good way.)

However, when asked about Richard Gage’s work, the nanothermite paper, and the scientific basis for controlled demolitions, she tensed up, saying she wasn’t a scientist, didn’t have the knowledge, and would need an advanced degree to understand the theories. She held firm and was clearly unwilling to discuss it further.

That was very discouraging. For whatever reason, she would not (publicly) veer from the official script of al Qaeda, the 19 hijackers, Moussaoui and the FBI lapses.

Ray McGovern had the same response. He said he’s looked at the scientific evidence but isn’t convinced that it’s strong enough to support controlled demolitions. Including Building 7, presumably.

This, after a speech about moral courage and the duty to be informed.

It leaves us wondering why these “truthtellers” and “whistleblowers” even bother with events like this. They garner our admiration for having the courage to speak out; they urge us to do likewise. Yet when we do, when many of us risk our own careers and reputations to follow the truth regardless of where it leads, they refuse to go out on that limb with us. Why?

“Unanswered questions” is safe. Saying we need a new investigation is safe. But unless these public figures move beyond that and start using their soapboxes to challenge the official story, with more courage and conviction, nothing will happen. The 9/11 Truth movement will remain stagnant, divided, demoralized -- and contained.

Do they know something that we don’t? - USAPatriot


This is the video that USAPatriot is referring to:


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Tuesday, October 13, 2009

911bogger.com Bans, Censors, Restricts Discussion About 9/11 Attacks

9/11 Truth websites like www.911blogger.com and www.truthaction.org have been banning people, locking forum discussions, and restricting the dialog regarding the 9/11 Attacks. Literally censoring it's users in secret.

I was banned from www.911blogger.com and www.TruthAction.org with no warning, no reason given and no response to my requests for comment. As far as I can tell I was moderated for arguing with Jon Gold about a $100,000 money he alleges came from a Pakistani ISI General.

As a webmaster, I helped YT aka Cosmo of www.TruthAction.org set the site up along with the discussion forum. With no explanation, I was banned from that very site I helped launch. As far as I can tell I was banned when I posted a discussion about a 9/11 Truth personality named "Danse" who leveled some heavy accusations against the website WTCDemolition.com/Blog. The discussion was locked, then deleted and I was banned. No reason or replies to my request for comment.

It seems that my association with the website WTCDemolition.com was also a motivational factor behind my banning on both sites.

My Banning At www.911Blogger.com

As far as I can tell, my banning was set in motion when I wrote an article and debated with Jon Gold about an alleged $100K money transfer by OMar Saeed Sheih. This was allegedly authorized by a General Mahmood, Genreal of the ISI at the time of 9/11/2001. The article I posted to www.911blogger.com titled:

Omar Saeed Sheikh Disinfo Goose Chase
http://www.911blogger.com/node/5945

Soon after I posted my article to 911Blogger.com, a response blog was issue by a www.911blogger.com user pdevlinbuckley. This article decided to use my full name and location and accused me of being dumb and irrational and insinuating that I'm accusing 'The Family Members' of spreading disinformation. That article is here:

9/11 Press For Truth Accused of Spreading Disinformation
http://www.911blogger.com/node/6083

This article by www.911blogger.com user pdevlinbuckley finds it necessary to point out my full name and affiliation with PA 911 Visibility, a group that I met with one time. Jon Gold was present and I met him in Philadelphia along with about 10 others. In my initial article Gold pointed out my name so I'm assuming that's where PDEVILINBUCKLEY got my full name.

As far as I know, it's a known and respected blogger tradition. If a user does not post with their full name you don't refer to them by it. In my opinion, I'm was being intimidated by www.911blogger.com and it's users. Even after multiple requests to remove my full name from these articles, it remains to this day. There are multiple re-postings of this article on the internet with my full name and insinuations that I am accusing 'The Family Members' of spreading disinformation.

I was eventually placed in a 'moderation queue' at www.911blogger.com and eventually banned from the website entirely. No reason, no warning and no explanation has been given. My request to remove my full name was responded to but never was taken down.

I believe what ultimately got me 100% banned from 911blogger.com was my expressed anger with the way in which www.911blogger.com allowed Bill Douglas, another 9/11blogger.com user, to market the book "The Shell Game" to the 911blogger.com community. In a gross attempt to shove "The Shell Game" down the throats of the 911 Truth community, Bill Douglas made an ass of himself. www.911Blogger.com allowed him to treat it's users in a way I found disturbing.

As far as I know, it was decided that I should not be able to participate at 911Blogger.com because of these issues.

My Banning At TruthAction.org

I met Cosmo / YT over at www.GNN.TV around 2005 / 2006. After working together on an article about GNN.TV and it's founders (IS GNN A PSYOP?), I helped him set up the www.TruthAction.org website and online discussion forum.

I did not participate in the forum until months or even a year after I had helped him set up the site. I left the project because I didn't feel www.TruthAction.org was a project I could see myself spending a lot of time with. At the time I was also having my doubts about Alex Jones and the tactics he used. YT / Cosmo seemed to be a huge fan of Alex Jones, something I couldn't get used to. He would often get pumped up like Alex Jones ranting about the NWO or 9/11 like Alex does on his radio show. It wasn't my style and I didn't have the time.

I eventually decided to post to the forum after an attack by Danse, a known 911 Truth personality, on the users of WTCDemolition.com. "Danse" posted this to WTC Demolition website:

"Something tells me that if i quoted Bakunin on this score I'd be much more well received;

BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.

"Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.

Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem strange. What could there be in common between communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find the means for its existence...

In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime, under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of political differences as well - this Jewish world is today largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks... (Polémique contres les Juifs)

Bakunin also disliked niggers."

---------- Danse

The idea that "Zionism" was responsible for the attacks on 9/11/2001 is ridiculous as the idea that "Islam" was responsible for the attacks on 9/11/2001. But that is not to say that either topic is 'off limits' when investigating this crime.

Danse would eventually reply back to me with:

"JPass, fuck off nigger." - Danse

And later with:
"LOL. JPass, you can't take a joke. Would you prefer "Kike?"Â Write it down in your little book. " - Danse

Finally, after the booze wears off, he comes up with a reasonable concern:

"Call it Zionism or Jew control, I see little difference in terms of the content of this blog; I see a fishing expedition to find Jewish surnames. Â "Negro" or "nigger", it's still bigotry. - Danse

Danse is scared that people focus too much on Jews and I second that fear. But prove your case please. Don't just throw out attacks and then run away and ban users wishing to defend themselves.

Apparently, this is the point he was trying to get through with the insinuations that I hate Jews and probably blacks. I do believe that the website www.wtcdemolition.com/blog focuses on the "Israeli" angle more then others I frequent. With this comes the term "Zionism" and even discussion of Jews.

As someone concerned about these issues and how I'm perceived by my community, I've called out questionable material on many occasions at WTCDemolition.com. The material is removed and the community agrees that hate towards any group will not be tolerated at WTCDemolition.com/blog.

If people like Danse and Jon Gold and others wish to label 911 Truth Activists as Jew Haters or any other derogatory label, they should publish their case against people like Gretavo and WTCDemolition.com. Publicly present a case and stop moderating comments and discussion in secret to support their argument.

In conclusion, this is only a snapshot of my experience. There are a handful of self appointed 9/11 Truth moderators and / or bullies censoring speech at www.911blogger.com and elsewhere. If moderators can secretly ban and moderate discussions there will never be an atmosphere of trust in the 9/11 Truth movement.

Friday, October 9, 2009

Down With Fake Guerrilla News Network?

It seems the premier phony 9/11 Truth website, Guerrilla News Network, is shutting it's doors.

As it goes with all fake 9/11 and Alternative News websites, GNN.tv has been propping up the official theory that Islamic Extremism was behind the 9/11 Attacks for almost 10 years now!

The Guerrilla News Network's owners are in discussions on what to do with their creation, GNN.TV. They're not happy with how the community has turned out so they want to squash it.

"the other issue is one of journalistic legacy. anthony and i are both working writers and journalists." - Stephen Marshall aka Sivlerback

I guess that's the real reason they want to close the doors. Looking in from the outside you might think this a reasonable response. But I now for a fact that the proven liar Stephen Marshall helped and wanted the GNN Community he now wants to squash.


For years the GNN founders allowed a community built on distrust and bullying to flourish. They provided the platform and encouraged the approach. Even at one point hiring one of the most obvious and combative trolls as a programmer for the GNN.TV website. He later lied about it until a screen shot proved that the programmer was using multiple user names.

And what about years wroth of user contributed content?

Here's what Stephen Marshall had to say about the deleting of user content and contributions:

"of course any work would be archived and wouldn’t be deleted. conspiracy theories aside" - Stephen Marshall

I'm assuming 'conspiracy theories' refers to all 9/11 Research that does not prop up the phony myth of Islamic Extremism and it's role as alleged mastermind of the 9/11/2001 attacks.

As a long time GNN user since late 2002, I am more inclined to believe that Anthony Lappe' and Stephen Marshall are closing the doors because either:

  1. their mission has been accomplished OR
  2. because they've been thoroughly debunked as, at best, fake activists who saw a career opportunity with the War On Terror or actual propaganda agents helping control discussion OR
  3. a combination of 1 and 2
According to GNN founder Stephen Marshall he's just not happy with the fuck the man attitude of his Guerrilla community. Are you kidding Stephen? Or should I call you Silverback? which is what the lead Guerriilla of a pack is called.

For years I witnessed GNN founder Anthony Lappe' and prominent disinformation specialist Sander Hicks discuss the most ridiculous 9/11 related theories as if they were GOLD. While the GNN community was bullied when discussion Controlled Demolition, Sander was free to post obvious disinformation like the story of Delmart Vreeland or the disinformation he calls The Graham Report.

As long as the discussion was about the phony threat of Islamic Extremism and it's relation to the 9/11 Attacks, you weren't bullied at GNN.TV. Sound familiar to your experience? Just like 911blogger.com and truthaction.org, GNN.TV routinely deleted discussions and banned users for discussing certain issues, especially that of Controlled Demolition.

And did you know that a few prominent 9/11 Truthers were GNNers first?

For example:

Sander Hicks - This buddy of GNN founder Anthony Lappe' brought us these fake 9/11 truth stories:
  • Delmart Vreeland: Wild Card
  • Randy Glass and the Pakistani ISI
  • The Graham Report
  • Sander Hick's 9/11/2006 Anniversary Article
I always thought it strange how Sander Hick's got such a warm welcome from GNN when he was posting the most obvious disinformation like Delmart Vreeland: Wildcard and The Graham Report.

I wasn't surprised to find that Anthony Lappe' wrote the forward in his buddy Sander's book, The Big Wedding. Now I understand why certain theories were given the green light. As long as the discussion stayed on the phony threat of Islamic Extremism and it's alleged sponsorship of the 9/11 Attacks, it was ok.

Reprehensor
This anonymous self appointed leader of the fake 9/11 Truth movement was a long time GNN contributor who focused on 9/11 Truth issues. Reprehensor decided to stop participating on GNN.TV because of an article titled "IS GNN A PSYOP?" that was written in 2006.

See: http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/

I was personally behind much of the research for the article "Is GNN A Psyop?" and I'm honored that a such a hight-status fake 9/11 Truther like Reprehensor would find it so valuable as to leave GNN because of it. He would migrate to www.911blogger.com from there where he became the owner and moderator of 9/11 Truth discussion.

I did not write the article or have any sort of control over what went in it. But my research is all over it. The article is discussed below with a link to the actual article. Coupled with my years of experience with GNN.TV, the article shows these guys are 100% establishment and possibly an intelligence propaganda operation.

YT aka Cosmos - This Founder of TruthAction.org was also a long time GNN.TV contributor who was exposed for using over 25 different user accounts on the GNN message boards. At a time when I was begging the founders to stop users from bullying the discussion boards with multiple user names, my buddy YT had over 25 different user accounts!

I helped YT set up the first version of the TruthAction.org Forums and the TruthAction.org website. Years later when I started discussing things I was banned with no explanation and no response from YT or moderators at TruthAction.org. My discussions were locked and removed from the forum with no explanation.

Is GNN a PSYOP Article

This article painted Anthony Lappe' as Columbia School of Journalism graduate who got recruited by the USIA, the propaganda arm of the US State Department. After being recruited by a USIA chief in Jerusalem in the late 90's, he traveled to Palestine to train journalists for the US State Department. Claiming that he didn't know what the USIA was, this journalism graduate now regrets getting caught up with the USIA.

I was surprised to find out that the founders Anthony Lappe' and Stephen Marshall had no idea that their projects were being funded by the Ford Foundation, a foundation known to have been used to funnel money from the CIA to fake activists groups in the United States. I informed Lappe' that the Ford Foundation had contributed over $200,000.00 to the Guerrilla News Network, it's founders and their media projects.

The article continues with information on the other founders of GNN.TV.

Stephen Marshall - While Anthony Lappe' was doing his gig with the US State Department, Stephen Marshall was beaming a secret underground radio broadcast into Nigeria after being hand picked by a Nigerian activist.

Ian Inaba - The money man for GNN.TV, was working for Choice Point and Gil Schwed, an Israeli billionaire and founder of Choice Point who once served in an elite Israeli military unit specializing in Computers and Network intrusion.

Although the article and the ensuing debate on the credibility of these individuals and the Guerrilla News Network have been deleted from the GNN.TV forums and GNN blogosphere, they have been saved in various places on the net.

Read the article: Is GNN A PSYOP?

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